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, and deal with the long- term deficit. >> those decisions may not happen until 2013. a smaller deal would be temporary, sending congress back to work on the details next year. >> i am not ok with them waiting six months or year kick to get things done. >> jake sherman of "politico" predicts that we will go over the cliff. >> we will not see the government shut down our people not be able to pull money out of banks are things like that. >> still a tough sell for constituency growing tired of the political back-and-forth. >> let's get some things set in place and up and running. >> 1 line of thinking on the hill -- there are many -- if we do go over the cliff that would reset all of the tax issues suchissues. what we do know, the clock is ticking and the waiting game continues, with the house not even scheduled to be in session until sunday afternoon. live of the capitol, steve chenevey wjla. >> will monitor all the negotiations surrounding the fiscal cliff. coming up at 5:30, a closer look at how the country got in this financial situation in the first place. >> we're learning more tonight
then for additional deficit reduction and economic growth steps we can take in the new year. >> reporter: if the congressional leaders don't reach a deal by december 31st, the financial markets could one is a bit and, consider this. the current congress is only in session until noon on january third. after that, 13 new senators and 82 new house members would take over and try to solve the problem and that is an overwhelming task out of the gate. back to you. >> thank you for. that. >>> we want to get back to the weather. let's take a live look outside. the snow and rain has tapered off here in the district, at least, but it's getting colder. maryland state officials are warning drivers to stay off of the roads if they don't have to be on them and get the latest on conditions with tucker barnes. he has the first look at the weekend weather. >> reporter: things are getting better out there and the storm system is long gone. the winds are picking up and overnight lows below freezing and there is a live look at satellite radar and you can see the rain and/or snow across the region and pushin
to our deficit in this country is rising health care costs. do we need to tangle those? how do they interact with the changes that are going to be set up across the country. is it going to cost the taxpayer more or less? all those have to be in the realm of realistic facts and figures. >> you're in arizona today. many of your constituents worked over the holidays. do you think congress should have stayed in washington to work for an agreement? >> absolutely. absolutely. once you know, once the boehner plan "b" collapsed, all we got was a notification, you can go home. we'll call you when we're ready. boehner's got to get off -- the majority of the majority must agree to something. it's going to take democratic votes to pass a tough fiscal compromise and unless there is inclusion and discussion on both sides of the aisle about this issue, that compromise gets tougher and tougher. >> thank you for coming "outfront." >> appreciate it. thank you. >> now, on the other side of the aisle. republican congressman of wisconsin. congressman, you just heard your arizona colleague say you a
said it didn't cause the problem. health care, the biggest add to our deficit in this country is rising health care costs. do we need to tangle those? how do they interact with the changes that are going to be set up across the country. is it going to cost the taxpayer more or less? all those have to be in the realm of realistic facts and figures. >> you're in arizona today. many of your constituents worked over the holidays. do you think congress should have stayed in washington to work for an agreement? >> absolutely. absolutely. once you know, once the boehner plan "b" collapsed, all we got was a notification, you can go home. we'll call you when we're ready. bainey's got to get off -- the majority of the majority must agree to something. it's going to take democratic votes to pass a tough fiscal compromise and unless there is inclusion and discussion on both sides of the aisle about this issue, that compromise gets tougher and tougher. >> thank you for coming "outfront." >> appreciate it. thank you. >> now, on the other side of the aisle. republican congressman of wisconsin. congres
that they have worked with me over the last two years. to reduce the deficit more than any other deficit reduction package. >> mohammed aladarin is the ceo of pimco and mark zandy is a chief moist at moody's analytics and joining me in studio is christine romans. the gdp for the u.s. grew at 3.1% over the summer. that's more than double the rate of the previous quarter. you can see the chart, it's been choppy, but it looks like we're going in the right direction. america's economy is gaining pace, doing better than expected. and we've been saying the 2013 could be the year of a real economic renaissance in the united states or at least the beginning of one. talk to me about the consequences to our prosperity if washington doesn't reach a deal. >> the consequences are not good. so what the numbers are telling you is that the private sector is healing. and if the private sector were left to its own devices, it would heal faster. unfortunately, washington is getting in the way. and what we find out this week, ali, is that the problem is not just a lack of trust between democrats and republi
in a deficit situation and we really needed to make up some ground. so luckily we have a lot of ground water storage capacity. we maintained that throughout this year and this series of storms has really helped us with our surface water storage. >>> right now lexington reservoir off highway 16 is 16% full. yubas is 17% full and the largest anderson reservoir is 41% full. >>> in oakland police are investigating multiple shootings including a homicide which happened this afternoon. neighbors near 24th street and chestnut neck west oakland, they heard multiple gunshots at about 2:30, our photographer accounted a total of 20 shell casings on the ground at two different crime scenes in the area. we are told that the victim is a man but his name has not been released there is no word on suspects or arrests. >>> in oakland they're investigating a shooting that injured two inside of a church. they were shot by stray bullets around 9:00 last night. most people are in stable condition right now. police say they have no suspects at this time. >>> a 24 hour strike by union nurses at nine bay area hospit
of more economic growth and deficit reduction. guys, i can hear you over here. i believe such proposal could pass both houses with bipartisan majorities, as long as those leaders allow it to actually come to a vote. if members of the house or the senate want to vote no, they can. but we should let everybody vote. that is the way this is supposed to work. if can you get a majority in the house, then can you get a majority in the senate, then we should be able to pass a bill. so the american people are watching what we do here. obviously their patience is already thin. this is deja vu all over again. america wonder yes it is that in this town for some reason, you can't get stuff done in an organized timetable, why everything always has to wait until the last minute. well, we're now at the last minute. and the american people are not going have any patience for a politically self-inflicted wound to our economy. not right now. the economy's growing but sustaining that trend is going to require elected officials to do their jobs. the housing market is recovering but that could be impacted i
the deficit, the president wants to increase taxes on people earning $250,000 or more but he did show his willingness in negotiates with boehner to raise that number to $400,000. that, however, went nowhere. meanwhile, boehner broke with the gop. it was his so-called plan b offering to raise taxes on people earning more than a million dollars but republicans would not budge on that. they do not want any more taxes. they want to make some cuts in spending and they blame the president for pushing the nation to the brink. that is the latest here at the white house. back to you. >> thank you. >>> what do you think about congress not reaching a deal on the fiscal cliff? do you think it is possible that i compromise will be reached before the deadline. share your comments on our facebook page. just search for fox 5 morning news. no space between fox and the number 5. we may share your comments on air. >> i'm sure you all have a lot to say. we would love to hear t. >>> a big story we are following. norman schwarzkopf has died. the retired general died from come indications of pneumonia. he was g
program run a billion deficit in 2012 . as the program brought in over 725 billion in cash and spent more than it earned it is costing 773 billion. >> julia: and you are surprised. benefits reached over 8 million and 820,000 in increase in november . so something shady is going on here. >> you used the word shady . i think that is a pretty good word to use. definition of who is disabled is expanded over the yearrs and recently, as you have a massive rise in unemployment and work force clinking and clearly some people are taking the disability option as opposed to staying in the work force. you can call it shady or financially unfortunate but it is happening. we never had as many people on disability ever before. >> clayton: republicans have a look at entitlement programs and we are trying to reign in the excessive spending. >> there are no serious cuts from president obama. there is serious effort at reforming. medicare and medicare. a lot of people don't say social security is enment. it is an insurance program. but it is enormous amount of money flowing out than in and it is getting wor
, and lays the groundwork for further work on both growth and deficit reduction. that's an achievable goal. that can get done in ten days. >> reporter: you hear we are talking about the words "achievable goals." the reality here is we have fewer days to work with, less talk about some sort of a grand compromise, and more talk about trying to do something to get things done for americans. randi? >> what do you make of the language and tone? i mean, is any sense of a deal sort of evaporating judging from what we're hearing from both sides, tough talk? >> at the very least, we aren't hearing a lot of warm words between the two toward each other. we know they've been working on this for weeks. you just don't hear that thawing when you hear them talking as they did just within the past 24 hours. shows a lot of work to be done in the next few days. how much is behind the scenes when they're divided geographically is the part we don't know. >> yeah. the president certainly also asking -- suggesting that everyone needs time to cool down. will this new proposal pass with republicans, do you think?
and there will still be an enormous amount of work to do both on deficit reduction and tax reform, not to mention dealing with massive spending cuts which by most accounts are not likely to be involved in the agreement. don't know that for sure, but that's our understanding going in, martin. >> i think it's a safe bet. both sides have different wants. so what's holding these two sides apart when the this he know that so very much is on the line for everyday americans? >> it's a great question. i mean, what's really holding them apart are massive ideological differences. this is about government's role in your life. democrats want more of a social safety net, republicans prioritize lower taxes. and that's what distinguishes the democratic and the republican parties sop so that's what they're fundamentally fighting about. if you break it down to the basic deal points right now, democrats say this smaller deal should include a tax increase for households that make $250,000 and more. an extension of unemployment benefits as you pointed out for about 2 million americans, a delay of those massive spend
's the longer term federal deficit and then the shorter term impact on the economy. we'll have that first, right? the markets will go down and economic confidence will continue to slide. money will be taken out of the economy. so there's an economic impact right now. why should they deal with this crisis when the bigger crisis they couldn't come together tlen. sorry starbucks. they didn't come together before either. what do you do about deficits? the truth is doing nothing at this point is the best impact they can have on deficits, because taxes will go up, spending will go down. that's the point of this deal. so to come to your point, yeah, i guess they could suddenly hug each other and do had this dance, but the reality is there are a lot of people who think, what we are dealing with is deficits because the budget looks better and we'll deal with the economy some other way. >> doing nothing is what they do best. mike, before we let you go, ed mackey malden running for the united states senate in massachusetts. >> he's never run statewide. do you agree with this? i think scott brown is smiling
that the government reduce its deficit as a condition for raising the debt ceiling. both democrats and republicans earth tactics that shut down the government and ultimately cost america its aaa credit rating for the first time in history. but in a last-minute compromise, both sides agree to a trillion dollars in spending cuts up front and another $1.2 trillion in cuts to be decided by a special congressional supercommittee. but a poison pill was attached. if the supercommittee can't reach a deal, automatic across the board cuts known as a sequester would go into effect be at the exact moment when those bush tax cuts extended for two years would expire. so the point is we could have all seen this coming and some of us did. we yelled at the top of our lungs about it but were drowned out by the election. it seems that good governance gets drowned out by continuous elections in america. this time there may be a serious price to pay for it. >> if we go off the fiscal cliff, be will you notice an immediate change to your wallet? we want to get a reality check from stephen moore, a member of the wall st
for a job and lays groundwork for more economic growth and deficit reduction. >> just moments ago, senator harry reid says he's readying a bill for a vote by monday. all this follows a rare face-to-face closed door meeting at the white house today between all the key players, the president, the vice president, the treasury secretary and all four congressional leaders huddled together with just four days to go before we all go overs fiscal cliff. that meeting lasted for an hour and five minutes. on a story where every second and every maneuver counts, let's get chief to white house correspondent jessica yellin. jessica, the president says he's modestly optimist being but each also presented a backup plan. does the president really think it will come to that? >> at this point, no, they don't, john, because the white house is hopeful that the agreement that the senators are working on can actually move forward after the meeting here. there is a modest uptick in enthusiasm about that possibility. but as forts backup plan, there's no real likelihood that would ever come to a vote because republ
deal, $3 trillion, $4 trillion, would take some long-term sort of whacks at the deficit problem, to talk about something small here over the next five or six days, just raising the taxes on -- and no real entitlement cuts. latourette said when he left that there would be republican votes in the house for this measure, if there was a spending piece, and he said it had to be about two to one. that isn't on the table yet. they have a ways to go to get to that arrangement and so i think it will be, you know -- >> the world on the other side of the cliff is probably more difficult for republicans than democrats. as you pointed out in your question, if there is stalemate taxes go up on everyone. you know, that would take it -- there are some people that say that's the best outcome going back to the clinton tax rates. it takes a huge bite out of the deficit, but on balance neither side wants to do that today, but, you know, for republicans i think that's a tougher world to swallow. many suggest if you go over the cliff, they come back and then have to agree to extend the tax rates for
the groundwork for future cooperation on more economic growth and deficit reduction. >> and just moments ago, senator harry reid says he's readying a bill for a vote by monday. all this follows a rare face to face-closed-door meeting at the white housed to between all the key players. the president, the vice president, the treasury secretary, and all four congressional leaders. huddled together with just four days to go before we all go over the fiscal cliff. that meeting lasted for an hour and five minutes. now on a story where every second and every maneuver counts let's get right to chief white house correspondent increase ka yellin. the president says he's modestly optimistic but he also presented a backup plan. does the president really think it will come to that? >> at this point, no. they don't. because the white house is hopeful, first of all, that the agreement that the senators are working on can actually move forward after the meeting here. there is a modest uptick in enthusiasm about that possibility. but as for the backup plan, there's no real likelihood that would ever come to
to a head in the summer of 2011. republicans demand the government reduce its deficit as a condition for raising the nation's debt ceiling. without a deal, the u.s. would lose its ability to borrow money. both democrats and republicans deploy scorched earth tactics that nearly shut down the government and ultimately cost america its aaa credit rating for the first time in history. >>> but in a last minnesota minute compromise, both sides agree to $1 trillion in spending cuts up front, and another $1.2 trillion in cuts to be decided by a special congressional super committee. but a poison pill was attached. if the super committee can't reach a deal, automatic across the board cuts known as the sequester would go into effect, starting january 2013. at the exact moment when those bush tax cuts extended for two years, if you remember, would expire. so the point is, we could have all seen this coming and some of us did. we yelled at the top of our lungs about it, but we were drowned out by the election. it seems common sense and good governance often get drowned out by seemingly endless a
it for now. job and lays groundwork for more economic growth and deficit reduction. >> just moments ago, senator harry reid says he's readying a bill for a vote by monday. all this follows a rare face-to-face closed door meeting at the white house today between all the key players, the president, the vice president, the treasury secretary and all four congressional leaders huddled together with just four days to go before we all go overs fiscal cliff. that meeting lasted for an hour and five minutes. on a story where every second and every maneuver counts, let's get chief to white house correspondent jessica yellin. jessica, the president says he's modestly optimist being but each also presented a backup plan. does the president really think it will come to that? >> at this point, no, they don't, john, because the white house is hopeful that the agreement that the senators are working on can actually move forward after the meeting here. there is a modest uptick in enthusiasm about that possibility. but as forts backup plan, there's no real likelihood that would ever come to a vote becau
victory instead it was the lakers to came back from a 14 point deficit. they beat the warriors in overtime, 118- 115 kobe bryant, no surprise lead all scorers with 34 points. >> still ahead on kron 4 news weekend we are keeping an eye on the weather. this live look as you can see wet weather and wind. mike pelton will give us an update. >> we left a little hot dog place, we went to victoria secrets, h and m. banana republic, basically every store. >> like see if there procrastination let to the discounts. >> of nassau and beyond the biggest stories of 2012. >> this is corta madera we have been following the rain and its started there in the north bay. to get you more news faster, our solo reporter, mike pelton. mike, you are at the shopping center. >> isabel, this is one of the worst i have seen it. very nasty conditions that the wind is picking up. as i panda the camera out. this construction cohn just went flying across just to give you an idea of the conditions. let me show you a video of the last several hours. there rain is continuing to pound but on the screen it has been like this a
insurance for 2 million americans and lays the groundwork for further work on both and deficit reduction. >>reporter: the remarks came after house speaker john boehner failed to muster enough of his party's support to bring his "plan b" to the floor. his proposal would have effectively raised taxes only on those americans making more than one million dollars a year. >> we had a number of our members who just really didn't want to be perceived as having raised taxes. >>reporter: the two sides each left the capitol for the christmas holidays, blaming the other for inaction. democrats said thursday's failure in the house pointed to a need for more compromise by the g-o- p. >> house republicans have gotten the message loud and clear that a comprehensive solution to the looming fiscal cliff will need to be a bipartisan solution. >>reporter: senate republican leader mitch mcconnell said the next move needs to come from the president. >> he is the only one that can do it. this isn't john boehner's problem to solve. >>reporter: without a deal, steep tax hikes and massive government spending cuts
of deficit reduction as well as dealing with these tax hikes that are set to kick in. that's not what's going to be happening, instead, he's pressing for something smaller just to a deal with stopping those tax hikes from kicking in for americans making $250,000 per year or less. and also trying to make sure that unemployment benefits are extended. listen to what president obama said last night and also listen to what some of the house republican resistance from speaker boehner to his sort of short-term plan here. >> in the next few days, i've asked leaders of congress to work towards a package that prevents a tax hike on middle class americans, protects unemployment insurance for 2 million americans, and lays the groundwork for further work on both growth and deficit reduction. that's an aachievable goal. that can get done in ten days. >> the president's solution of raising tax rates would still leave red ink as far as the eye can see and it would hurt jobs at a time when far too many of our citizens are struggling to find them. >> reporter: but so now, miguel, the plan is to just deal with
in the deficit. is this president has put on the table quite an extraordinary amount of spending cuts to the shagrin of democrats i might add let's remember that this president has never walked away from the bargaining table. republicans will get the blame but does that mean that we shouldn't try? >> no. americans are the ones that are going to be hurt if the middle class families. there is a bill where the house could pass it to protect the majority of america's middle class families. which is a worse fate or voting to increase taxes on wealthy americans. they can come back and cut taxes in the new year and look good. >> it is not what looks worse. it is what is worse for the american people? >> doesn't that seem to be what they are worried about? >> to your point about tax increases, what we are looking at now, it is like a mortal wound gushing out of our chest. they come along and put a ban dade on our forehead. we need to not just raise taxes. if we give the president every tax increase that he wants. we need to address the spending. >> and the president has addressed that. no one
insurance, and lays the ground work for further work on both growth and deficit reduction. >> reporter: remarks came after speaker of the house john boehner failed to bring plan b to the floor. it would have raised taxes on those americans making more than $1 million a year. >> we had a number of our members who just really didn't want to be perceived as raising taxes. >> reporter: the two sides left blaming each other for inaction. democrats said the failure in the house pointed for a need for more compromise by the gop. >> republicans got the message loud and clear. >> reporter: he said the next move needs to come from the president. >> he is the only one who can do it. this isn't john boehner's problem to solve. >> without a deal tax hikes and spending cuts are set to trigger after january 1. in washington. >>> just released figures show the price of a home in november rose to the highest level since 2008. data show the average sale price for a single family home in november was $883,000. that is up 16% from 2011. the price of condos rose 40%, $468,000. a lack of inventory is drivin
americans and lays the groundwork for further work on both growth and deficit reduction. >> raising taxes could still be red ink as far as i can see and it would hurt jobs. >> reporter: some long-time lawmakers are dismayed by the perpetual gridlock. >> i feel it's more likely we'll go over the cliff than not and if we allow that to happen, it will be the most colossal consequential act of irresponsible in a long time --er responsibility. >> reporter: president obama is in hawaii. he says he will cut his vacation short to try to hammer out a deal. the deadline a week away. >> if congress does not get anything done, then taxes will most likely go up for everyone. just about everyone on january 1st. unemployment benefits will also expire for many people. >>> international envoy working to end syria's civil war worries won't be able to help. one man said bashar assad discussed possible steps forward but has made little progress because both sides seem to be more interested in fighting. >>> authorities in india used violence to stop a week of rape protests. armed police beat police with stick
with deficit reduction that would have dealt with these tax hikes, spending cuts, trying to work out a plan for entitlement reform and tax reform. what's now being worked out is to avert those tax hikes. as president obama wants it, he wants it up to folks earning $250,000, and also wants to deal with unemployment insurance getting that he can extended for unemployed americans but that bigger stuff kicked down the road. >> brianna, will americans actually see their paychecks affected january 1st without a deal? >> reporter: if no deal, that is not expected. technically, the tax hikes would go into effect then, don. but there would be a whole lot of pressure on washington to act, even if we were to go over the fiscal cliff. and because of that, payroll processors would wait to use the new math, if you will. and a lot of people wouldn't see an increase in the taxes taken out of their paychecks until late january or early february when it was clear that the fiscal cliff was here to stay. >> brianna, i am not by nature a jealous person at all. but are you in waikiki? is that waikiki? because i
to the clinton tax rates. it takes a huge bite out of the deficit, but on balance neither side wants to do that today, but, you know, for republicans it's a tougher pill to swallow. many suggest if you go over the cliff, they come back and then have to agree to extend the tax rate for everybody below some number. >> that debt deal turns out to be brilliant or something. >> what matter is the simpson boles commission which president obama didn't want to appoint and pay attention to, that's front and center. the blueprint for how we move on. these two guys took on a task that was a fool's errands we thought, what happens to the commissions, nothing. we go back to them. >> let's talk about the die nam in this case between senator reid and mcconnell. can they come up with something up with something that the senate would pass and also something the house would pass? >> they have to try by new year's eve here. >> three days, four days. >> interesting that senator reid said he would like neal abercrombie to appoint the replacement for daniel anyway. reid thinks he'll need that vote. they'll prob
for 2 million americans and lays the ground work for further work on both growth and deficit reduction. >> the presidents solution of raising tax rates would still be ready for as far as the eye can see and it would hurt jobs. >> the partisan bickering has put the country on the brink of a financial crisis. >> it's the first time that i feel it's more likely that we will go over the cliff than not. and that if we allow that to happen it will be the most collosal consequential in a very long time. >> reporter: president obama is in hawaii for christmas. he says he will cut his vacation short to try to hammer out a deal with republicans. i'm andrew spencer reports. >>> fears over if fiscal cliff dampened hopes on the stock market. >>> on the heels of a public outcry, instagram has been hit with with their first civil lawsuit. the first action suit filed in criminal court friday stems from the company's proposal to change its terms of service. an instagramish user leveled claims against the company. instagram claims the complaint is without merit. >> thousands gather to celebrate christm
year we were in a deficit situation and we really needed to make up some ground. luckily we have a lot of ground water storage capacity. this series of storms have helped with the reservoir capacity. >>> a member of the alpine meadow ski patrol has died after being buried in an avalanche. bill foster died overnight at a reno hospital. yet the ski patrol used explosives to trigger the avalanche in a private area of the resort near lake tahoe. resort officials say the avalanche broke much higher and wider on the slope than expected burying foster in the snow. >>> we'll go to the sierra for updates on conditions there tonight as this latest storm bringing everyone more snow to the high country. you can get the latest weather conditions any time online or on your mobile device at ktvu.com. look for the link to storm tracker 2 near the top of the page. you can also follow us on twitter. we postupdates on the ktvu channel 2 facebook page. >>> police found dozens of shell casings on the ground where a man was shot and killed. neighbors told our photographer that they heard multiple gunshots.
million americans, protect middle america the middle income americans and also work on deficit reduction. >> the president solution would still leave red ink as far as the eye could see. and difficult for jobs. >> this is it difficult for the brink of perpetual gridlock. >> this is likely that we will go over the fiscal cliff and not and if we allow that to happen. would be the most concord consequential, terrible act of gridlock. >> president obama is in hawaii but could possibly cut his vacation short to hammer out a deal. >> thousands of nurses will walk off the job today at nine bay area hospitals. nurses with sutter health's alta bates summit medical center are asking for negotiated labor contracts care protections. such as staffing levels, health benefits, and sick days. strikers say hospital officials want to reduce the number of paid sick days for nurses and technicians, while eliminating health care coverage for those who work fewer than 30 hours a week. >> analysts say many shoppers haven't been in the holiday spirit when it comes to spending money. the four-day black friday we
and deficit reduction. >> everything that has been happening in the last several hours has been happening behind the scenes. we have correspondents tracking everything for you. we have luke, luke, i will start with you this hour. the senate officially reconvenes tomorrow afternoon. i assume that there's a lot of closed door talks going on right now. is that true? what can you tell us? >> reporter: that is true, staff from harry reed and mitch mcconnell have been negotiating through the daout the day and in picked up. we have heard that both sides are not budgeting. but we don't know, things can change at any moment. if we have to gauge how to talks have gone so far from the conversations we have had here around capitol hill, they have not been too good at the moment. all that being said though, craig, there's a lot that can happen over the next 48 hours. the deal obviously is to try to have something on the floor that can pass the house of representatives by new year's eve. that is why it's so difficult, craig. you have mitch mcconnell and harry reed trying to get something passed. so the
end the year as some kind of victorious guy? if you look at the u.s. deficit is about $4 trillion a year. these tax increases cover about 400 billion. that's 9 or 10%. that's. it the rest of this battle is over entitlements. i mean the democrats could solve this whole thing simply by agreeing to a minor increase, just a two year increase. >> the president did put that on the table and the republicans reject that. the real issue here is there going to be a self-inflicted wound to the economy? the uncertainty here. either way taxes on the wealthy are going up. they'll go up under a deal approved in the last hours which may or may not happen or if it doesn't, there's no deal, then we go over the so-called cliff and the tax goes up there. so either way taxes are going up. >> if the president wanted a deal on entitlements, all he has to do is raise the age from social security to 65 to 67, maybe 68. that solves the entire problem. the president won't deal on that. >> it's a separate issue with its own trust fund. that could be solved fairly easy. you're right about that. it's medicare
then for additional deficit reduction and economic growth steps we can take in the new year, but let's not miss this deadline. that's the bare minimum we should be able to get done. it shouldn't be that heart since democrats and republicans both say they don't want to see taxes go up on middle-class families. i just have to repeat. outside of washington, nobody understands how it is that this seems to be a repeat pattern over and over again. ordinary folks, they do their jobs. they meet deadlines, they sit down and they are discuss things, and then things happen. the notion that our elected leadership can't do the same thing is mind-boggling to them. it needs to stop. so i'm modestly optimistic that an agreement can be achieved. nobody will get 100% of what they want, but let's make sure middle-class families and the american economy, in fact the world economy, aren't adversely impacted. thank you very much, everybody. >>> right now at 6:00, president obama just wrapped up a news conference in which he said he is modestly optimistic a deal can be reached to avoid the fiscal cliff. >>> doug is t
available, and that lays the groundwork then for additional deficit reduction and economic growth steps that we can take in the new year, but let's not miss this deadline. that's the bare minimum we should be able to get done. >>> senate leaders say they hope to reach a compromise that could be presented to lawmakers by sunday, a little more than 24 hours before the deadline. >>> and don't miss "meet the press" on sunday morning. david gregory will interview president obama exclusively just hours before the fiscal cliff deadline. "meet the press" airs at 10:30 on monday morning. >>> police locked up tonight after a brazen crime spree. as jack write benson reports, one of the victims had choice words for those who were arrested. >> reporter: the occupants of this stolen car are -- i'm okay now. i just thank god he didn't hurt me. >> reporter: when sharon gardner first saw this nissan maxima, it was speeding away from the bp gas station with the man who had just stolen her purse in the backseat. >> i was in between vacuuming my car out. i was going from my driver's side to my passengers s
, who are providing us also with the means to float the deficit. these are the people providing a lot of our financing. well, at some point if this goes on long enough, they begin to think, hold it. >> who's writing a lot of our financing? >> mainly foreign governments as well as markets. holding on to treasuries and the rest. so the question, then, at some point do they go, hold it. if these guys aren't serious, why am i depending upon them so much? and the scariest single scenario is ultimately people start saying before i continue to float the united states, i want to get a slightly higher return to take -- in order to -- because of this risk. because of this uncertainty. that is the day the spiral begins because that's the day mr. bernanke and his colleagues have to think about raising rates in order to attract the necessary financing. we don't want to get there. and what's so scary about this twofer of the cliff and the debt ceiling over the next two months, basically till the end of february, is for the rest of the world looking at us, we essentially have -- it's not so much nex
circumstances. things come to a head in the summer of 2011, republicans demand the government reduce the deficit as a condition for raising the nation's debt ceiling. without a deal, the u.s. would lose the ability to borrow money. both democrats and republicans deploy scorch earth tactics that nearly shut down the government and ultimately cost america its aaa credit rating for the first time in history. but in a last-minute compromise, both sides agree to $1 trillion in spending cuts up front and another $1.2 trillion in cuts to be decided by a special congressional super committee. but a poison pill was attached. if the super committee can't reach a deal, automatic across the board cuts known as the sequester would go into effect starting january 2013. at the exact moment when those bush tax cuts extended for two years, if you remember, would expire. so the point is, we could've all seen this coming and some of us did. we yelled at the top of our lungs by it, but we were drowned out by the election. it seems common sense and good governance often get drown out by seemingly endless and continu
and deficits. >> he's going to do the hammer dance? >> he's one of these great public servant who will say or do whatever it takes to get people's attention on issues that really matter. and this group that sponsored it is the can kicks back. it's not 200 million views. >> i wish we could see al franken dancing in a unitard to fight violence against women. >> make the cut. >> who picked the list? >> we all did it "outfront." >>> up next, a rust belt bright spot in 2013. we're going to take you there, next. last chance to get the best deals of the year on america's freshest lineup. hurry in for the great mileage. hurry in the latest technology. the clock is ticking. so hurry to the final 100 hours of ford's year end celebration. before everything's gone. and one more thing...hurry. get a focus with 2000 cash plus 500 year end bonus cash with no charge sync and sound during the final hundred hours of the ford year end celebration. only at your local ford dealer. >>> well, washington's division and dysfunction threatened our economic recovery, some american cities are working their way back a
house doesn't reach a deal to reduce the deficit, automatic spending cut goes into effect and taxes practically on everyone will go up come first of the year. we want to focus on the tax part of the equation and joining us is todd shownen berger, managing partner at land colt capital. todd, many people will be hit with the alternative minimum tax if no deal is struck. what exactly is is that and how will it affect me, you, everybody across the country? >> the amt, alternative minimum tax was put in place by congress, actually meant for the very wealthy of america, the very wealthy tax filers so that they were not taking full advantage of too many deductions and credits. the problem is there was never indexed for inflation so each year, congress those pass an exemption so therefore it protects middle class families. but it's part of the entire fiscal cliff negotiation, nothing has been passed. so we are looking at maybe 30 million americans, 30 million to 100 americans that could be deeply impacted by the time springtime rolls around. >> what about other tax cities in understand ther
. in the meanwhile, useful from my perspective to lock in some additional revenue to help on the medium term deficit. >> there are people on the left like paul krugman that say in this whole idea of comprehensive tax reform unleashing economic growth is nonsense. is that -- >> most of the evidence suggests that there is some benefit from a more sensible tax code. i think in 2013 itself, we have larger problems in the sense of inadequate demand, but i think it's hard to argue that we wouldn't do somewhat better with a more sensible tax code. >> one piece that you've been pushing is a consumption tax as part of this comprehensive tax deal. you know that a lot of economists think it is a good idea. we should tax consumption and get the savings rate up. it seems politically dead on arrival. i think paul volcker mentioned it and in response, 96 senators passed a sense of the senate resolution that this was an evil idea. >> here's the way i think about it. we're not going to get a consumption tax in this discussion this year or next spring either. the reason it's inevitable, on the republican side, it is
for further work on both growth and deficit reduction. that's an achievable goal. that can get done in ten days. >> yesterday the house speaker john boehner failed to garner enough support from his own party to even hold a vote on his plan to raise taxes for those with an income over $1 million. >> while we may have not been able to get the votes last night to avert 99.81% of the tax increases, i don't think -- they weren't taking that out on me. they were dealing with the perception somebody might accuse them of raising taxes. >> chief white house correspondent jessica yellin, senior congressional correspondent dana bash, nice to see both of you. jess character the president's message was very short and sweet and kind of basic. what do you think is different this time around in what he's saying? >> well, what's different is it's less than two weeks until the new year, the president's about to leave for hawaii in less than 15 minutes he leaves the white house, soledad. and congress is going to be gone for christmas too. and there is no more effective motivator for capitol hill than pressur
republicans would cut spending for every bill they passed that would add to the deficit. and then they had to exempt themselves from their own rule for the very first bill they introduced when the war on women thing really picked up pace and the republicans' incessant focus on abortion stuff started to hurt the party politically. you remember john boehner insisting over and over again that this anti-abortion stuff was a democratic conspiracy. republicans were not focused on war on women at all, jobs, jobs, jobs. the furthest thing was the anti-abortion legislation. they weren't even working on that. all the while he was making that case, his own republicans kept introducing more and more and more and more anti-abortion legislation. forget what john boehner says. he doesn't speak for us. since john boehner has been speaker, since early 2011, the house has had real trouble just doing basic run of the mill governing stuff. bills failing unexpectedly and needing to be pulled at the last minute and tried again. the republican leadership's own legislation failing to get enough republican votes t
deficit with china hit another record in 2011 with the value of chinese imports rising to almost $400 billion. but u.s. exports to china are also hitting record highs. >> china is now our third largest export market. and i don't think a lot of americans realize that. >> reporter: in fact, since the year 2000, 47 states have reported at least triple-digit export growth to china. including minnesota. the home of red wing shoes. >> china exports red wing shoe company have really taken off in the last five years. >> reporter: for red wing, the key is quality control. it says chinese-made products just don't measure up. >> the boots don't last as long. we are known for our leather. it's just a higher quality leather that's appreciated by that chinese customer. >> reporter: back in new york, fashion designer patrick ervel says his growing chinese fan base looks not only for quality but designs they can't find at home. >> now there is a bit of a cache, not just an american designer, but if you're manufacturing here, especially in menswear. >> reporter: why? >> just this idea of made in ameri
. there are basically three pieces to solving the deficit, right? one is spending and we have agrowed to $1.6 trillion in spending cuts in the last two years and the other is spending cuts. we put forth spending cuts of over $700 billion. not cutting care to seniors, but cutting overpayments to insurance companies. the burden of the deficit must not just be on the middle class. the wealthy have to kick in. we sent a bill to the house in july that says 98% americans, income up to 240,000 would continue to get tax cuts. above that, people would may more. they made excuses, the bill wasn't right. we have the bill in the house, the bill in the senate. the bottom line is when the speaker put on the floor last week the bill that would say, okay, how about everybody up to $1 million gets a tax cut. couldn't even pass that. we're stuck. we're really stuck. >> the house gop said they put a bill forward in august. so everyone sort of covering themselves saying we got a bill. we didn't ask to go over the fiscal cliff. i'm kind of glad at 3:00 this afternoon, both sides of the house leader smip and house are meet
looking for a job, and lays the groundwork for future progress on more economic growth and deficit reduction. i believe such a proposal could pass both houses with bipartisan majorities as long as these leaders allow it to come to a vote. >> for the republican side, senator roy blunt of missouri who struck a more partisan tone is shifting blame to democrats. >> the republican-controlled house has taken the step in the right direction. the house has passed bills to protect all americans from burdensome tax increases. in addition, they passed legislation to replace damaging across the board spending cuts with responsible targeted ones. and to bring our nation's record debt under control. but instead of working across the aisle and considering the house-passed plan to protect taxpayers, senate democrats have spent months drawing partisan lines in the sand. >> and all of this gridlock in washington has actually helped the current congress make history. not sure if it's the history they want to make because it would be the most unproductive year ever. a review by the "huffington post,"
that he is very interested in deficit reduction and very interested in serious spending cuts. none of whichever materialize. but the class warfare rhetoric is always still there. he is always interested in raising taxes to feed his ever-growing and every ravenous beast of the government. here we are again. when i talk about this is no way to run a superpower, what i mean by that, every single time we get to the press miss and every single time our leaders wait until the exact last minute, i mean one thing to wait for it the last minute to buy christmas gifts for tomorrow. i see plenty of people running around new york city trying to buy gifts. another thing for the president and congress to wait until the last minute on fiscal issues that affect every american, gregg and our long-term fiscal health. gregg: are you saying the president is disingenuous and duplicitous which would be novel in politics? >> and certainly in washington, d.c.. all we have to go on is the president's pattern of behavior. over the last four years it has been the same drill every single time. the republicans
, realistically can there be a grandiose bill that will attempt to solve our spending, deficit problem, with the overall framework? or talking about a band-aid? >> personally, i don't think we'll get the big plan in the next six days. it would be great if we could. >> the whole enchilada. but at least if we can get an appetizer -- no, seriously. if we can get assurance that realistic work is being done to provide tax relief, regulatory relief. the two big laws passed previously in 2010. affordable care act, well intentioned, very costly and those are posing problems too. >> earlier this week, we spoke with grover norquist. you signed the pledge not to sign taxes. >> i did. >> he supported speaker boehner's plan "b" and said it wouldn't violate his pledge. here's what he told us earlier this week. listen. >> i think in fact, plan "b" is a good step to protecting tax cuts for everybody. >> if you look at current law, current law says as we all know, part of the fiscal cliff '01, '03 tax relief measures will expire on january 1st. at this point, everybody's taxes go up. we all know that.
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